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About The Worst Convo…
There are so many things, on so many levels that upset me about this whole thing.
The first level is the whole drinking thing. It really upsets me when he drinks, I don’t know how to explain it, but it really hurts me when he drinks, first off. Secondly I just flat out don’t like people drinking.
I live in a college town, I’ve seen my dad when he was a drunk, I’ve seen what people do when they get drunk, and all the stupid things that they do. And mostly I’ve heard all the stories and the stupid things that he’s done when he gets drunk. I don’t want him to be that, I don’t want him doing those stupid things. He’s too smart for that, and I don’t want to see/hear/know that he’s doing those things. It lowers my view of him. And I don’t want to do that.
Lastly I don’t want him drinking because I just knew that eventually something would happen, something that would hurt me, or him, or even both of us. And I didn’t want to deal with that.
I don’t at all expect him to live by my moral theories, or practices. I just ask that he at least think about me. Just 15 minutes before he started drinking we were talking about how I didn’t want him too. Clearly my opinion had no effect on him. I just think that since we had JUST talked about it, he would think, Maybe I shouldn’t do this. In every relationship/friendship there has to be sacrifices, there has to be something that someone changes.
For me, it’s my constant putting down of him. My, Oh, I bet you’re going to go fuck someone, or make out with someone, etc that I have to change. For him, I ask that he not drink, at least not tell he’s legal. But he’s obviously not willing to do that, and that hurts.
There were so many other levels that it hurt on. That night I called him, because I had just watched a very moving movie, another one of those, OMG the world almost ended, I want to tell the person that I love, how much I love them type of movies. All I wanted to do was call him, say hey. Have him tell me that he’s having a great time at the party and to tell him that I missed him.
Instead I got something horribly different. I got a drunk Andrew, something I never want to talk to again. I couldn’t tell him that I loved him, because he hurt me to much. Just hearing him, within 5 seconds of him answering the phone, I KNEW that he was drunk off his ass. Later he claimed that he had just had a little bit, but he didn’t. And that hurt even more. Maybe I’m just being a bitch. But that’s my opinion.
I ended it quickly, cause I didn’t want to talk to him anymore. I went to bed, at least tried to. But I just laid there thinking. Had he drank before and just not told me about it. Was it just luck that I caught him this time. I turned into Adam and I hate that I did. But I had to call him. I had to know.
I asked, he said no. That he hadn’t. So I believed him. I still didn’t want to talk to him though, so it was again a short conversation. After that I again tried to go to bed.
He called a little after that, and apologized. He said he was sorry and that he really loved me and he missed me so much. I guess he really didn’t miss me or love me enough though.
I went to bed after that, very pissed at him. Though I still loved him, and I did miss him and I believed that he missed and loved me as much as he said that he did. I laid in bed that night, and I couldn’t sleep. All I could think about was him sitting in someone’s room drinking, getting drunk. Wondering if he went and drank more after we talked, or what he was doing.
I finally got to sleep, but it wasn’t a very good sleep, I kept waking up and having horrible thoughts. I got up the next morning and just sat around here waiting for him to call me.
I knew it was going to be a really bad talk. I never imagined how bad it would be. It ended up being the worst conversation I’ve ever had to have in my life. Worse then the time that Adam broke up with me. Worse then the time that I broke up with Adam. Worse then anything else I’ve ever had to do.
He finally called, and it started. We talked about his drinking, and he argued with me forever that he could drink responsibly, that he didn’t need someone to protect him from drinking and that he didn’t need to live by someone else’s morals. He told me that he’d never do anything wrong, or bad. All of which we’re lies.
He told me how he didn’t understand how I could be so mad about it, and that he didn’t want it to be a problem when he goes out and drinks again.
The whole time I just wanted to scream at him, and tell him how much it hurts to see him drink, and how much I wanted to just tell him that if he keeps drinking, I can’t keep talking to him. That I can’t keep caring about him. I just can’t.
After what I think was about an hour, maybe an hour and a half. We were finished with talking about that, and there was silence. I didn’t know what to say to him. I just wanted to hang up because I was still mad at him for that. I didn’t want to keep talking to him because I didn’t know what I should say to someone who hurt me so much. There was silence. And he started crying.
He said something, and I couldn’t understand what he was saying because he was crying to much, so I asked him to repeat it. He said it again and I still couldn’t understand, but I caught one word… Kissed
I knew what he said then, but I had to hear him say it again. I asked him to repeat it again and he said that someone kissed him. Exactly, I knew it. At that moment in time, I didn’t know what to think. I wanted to pull another Adam and scream at him and say, HOW THE HELL COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME! I wanted to call him a fucking ass hole, and hang up on him. I felt like my chest was ripped open, and my heart ripped out. I felt like someone cut my throght, but only enough so that I had to suffer and bleed to death slowly.
He told me the story, and my mind, being as demonic as it is, just wanted more details. How long, where at, was there tounge, etc, etc. He told me, he cried. He apologized. He told me how it didn’t mean anything, and how he wanted it to stop.
All I could think was, why didn’t you tell him to stop. Why didn’t you get up and leave. Why did you end up with him alone, where this could happen.
He told me that the whole time he just wanted it to be me, that he just pretended that it was me. All I could think was, Well it wasn’t me. And saying that you wanted it to be doesn’t make it better, or right
He told me that the whole time he was telling him about me, how great of a guy I was, how I was such a great boyfriend, etc. That just made it worse for me. With him telling me that I was so pissed off at this other guy then. That I wanted to go punch him in the face. After I punched Andrew in the face. I wanted to scream at him and ask him how he could do this to someone when they’re telling you about this great guy they had. How could someone do that? How could Andrew do this to me?
HOW?
I hate to admit it, but, when he left here. I knew that eventually something would happen, so this wasn’t as big of a surprise. But it still hurts so much, and what makes it hurt FAR MORE is that he keeps telling me how much he loves me. And again, JUST THAT AFTERNOON he asked me to move closed to OC when I came to Cali. Because he wanted me closer. Then he goes out and makes out with someone else? HOW HOW HOW?
How can that be showing me that he loves me? How can that me showing that you care for me? How can this be anything?
I admit that technically he didn’t do anything wrong. So I think that’s why I’m being more forgiving for it then I should really be. But I’m going to talk about that later.
After hearing about it all, I just wanted to do something to get back at him. To make him feel what I was feeling. But I know that won’t help any. So I won’t. I know that I love him, and I don’t have to go make out with someone else to realize that. And I don’t have to have a temporary boyfriend well he’s not here. I can live with being single for a few months. I did it for 18 years.
And now that I know there’s one boy out there that I care for so much. Why would I want to try dating anyone else. Not until I know if things will work out. And also, why start anything here, when I know that I’m moving in a 8 months or something.
He kept apologizing, and I said that I would forgive him, if he forgave himself. But what I really wanted was a guarantee that he wouldn’t drink again. I trust that he wouldn’t do this sober. But obviously I can’t trust him when he’s drunk.
And now this is what’s pissing me off even more. He STILL doesn’t understand why I don’t want him to drink. I’m so frustrated because there’s nothing else that I can say to him to convey my opinion and why I don’t want him to drink. He admitted himself that this WOULDN’T have happened if he hadn’t been drinking. But still he doesn’t understand why I don’t want him to drink? How can this be?
It’s not like I’m asking him to NEVER drink again. I’m asking him not to drink for the rest of this semester, I’m asking that if he does drink, he drinks at someone’s house (Not on CAMPUS!) with a small group of friends and that he stay there, away from places where the temptation to do this is at, away from where the possibility of him being busted is. Away from all of that; with people who will protect him. I just want to know that he’s safe, that’s my top priority. I don’t want him hurt, and I don’t want to have him call my crying because something horrible happened.
We eventually got past talking about it, and he told me that he was scared. I was so confused as to what he would be scared about, and at first he really wouldn’t tell me. He did tell me though. He said that he’s scared that I may be the one. And that touched me so much. I didn’t know what to say, but I wanted to scream out that I’d been thinking the same thing. Ever since New Jersey, and some before that. I had been wondering if perhaps he was, if he could be the person that I’d like to spend the rest of my life with. And that scares me too. But I’ve been putting if off thinking about it. Because we’ve only had 4 months together.
But in then end. I do wonder. I told him not to be scared. He’s to young to think about that, and if/when we get back together. Then we’ll see where things go, and if we both still feel that way. But it made me feel really good because at least I knew that I wasn’t the only one who felt that way.
In then end of it all. This would be so much easier, if one of two things happened. We would have just ended it, and not talked so much, or the thing I want to happen more, is if we give the long distance relationship a go. I just think things would be so much easier, because in times like this there would be a clear cut path, I would know exactly what I’m supposed to do. I would have to break up with him, and it’d be a bad breakup, thus ending feelings.
But the way that things are, I don’t know how I’m supposed to feel. Right now I feel like he’s cheated on me, but I know that I can’t and I know that I shouldn’t because technically he didn’t cheat on me. But I do feel like he did. And that is hard.
Normally for me, it’s very easy for me to separate what I believe, and how I’m supposed to feel. IE, Abortion. I believe that it’s wrong, but I feel that it’s right (Meaning I support abortion, even though I think that it’s the wrong choice to make). But in this situation it’s so hard for me to do that.
It’s so hard for me to separate what I’m supposed to feel, and that I do feel. I guess that’s all I can really say on this topic. I just think that it would be easier if we were still together, or if we just ended everything. Though the latter is not at all what I want.
I know that it’s just hard yet because of the way that things did end, and the way that we still talk to each other.
We talked for nearly 5 hours yesterday. And even though it was mostly a sad talk. There was some good to come of it. I know that he still cares for me and I know how much. I believe that he’ll never do this to me again. At least not soberly. It reaffirms that I’m doing the right thing by moving out to Cali, and by accepting when he asked me to move closer to him when I do make the move.
It made me feel good to know that he felt he could tell him about this. Even though it has caused a lot of talking, and crying over the whole situation. He more then I have. Which again makes me believe how he feels.
Right now more then anything I want him back here. I want to hold him tonight so that I know it’s all true, that he does still care for me the way he says. I want him to be here and call me Topher man.
I want him to be here and tell me that he loves me, and I want to drive around and hold his hand. I want to walk through the mall and hold his hand, and kiss him. I want him to be there to tell me that the boxers I’m getting are really cute. I him to be there so that when other people are showing affection. I don’t have to be pissed at them, and can just show my affection to him.
I want him to be back here, so that I can call him my ‘Drew Bear, so that I can tell him he still means so much to me. I want to tell him how much I want him to make love to me again. I want to lay there in bed and kiss him, and hold him through the night.
We talked about how nice it’d be to have him fly here, or me fly there. And I really wish that it was feasible. I sit at work, wishing that when I get home, he’ll be there sitting on my couch watching TV, that we can go out at night, or just stay in and watch a movie. I sit in class in the afternoons wishing that he’d call me and say, Can you pick me up at the airport.
I sit at night, waiting to hear a knock on my door, or the key in the lock. I wait and wait, and it never happens.
I hope that every day I work that the nice secretary will come back with a vase of flowers, and be like, who sent those to you? and I can say… The most wonderful boy in the world.
I come home and check my mail. Hoping there will be a letter from him, with something cute in it.
I still have hope that something will happen.
In closing, I guess I want to say that it’s his life and what he did wasn’t really wrong per-say. Though it still hurt. I know that we’ll get over it, and no matter what happens, we will stay friends. Friends date other people, and they make out with other people. What happens regarding relationship in the future is something that will have to happen in the future. And we’ll just have to live and see how things go over Christmas.
I really miss him, and I’m sad that this had to happen, but everything will eventually be alright. I know it will be.
I Just Asked…
So Andrew actually asked me if I would move close to Orange. It was very touching.
Not really going to say much more about it. But it did mean a lot to me.
Also wanted to say that I’m very intriged (wow, that’s some bad spelling) about his talking about David in his old entried. Very interesting.
Wish that he was here to really explain them all. I know there’s some hidden words in there in most of them, and there’s a lot that I have a feeling involve me.
Well I hope he has a good night. Laters all.
My Life… As A Depressive
Ok, well things haven’t been going very well lately.
Lots of stuff that I really want to update about, but at the same time I know that they’ll add unneeded worryness to Andrew.
I guess the first thing to talk about is our talk last night. It was good that he called though I’m getting fairly annoyed that he’s always like, “I can only talk for a few minutes”. I’m hoping that I’m worth more then justa few minutes of his time. But whatever, I know that he’s a busy person, and that he’s got stuff to do, unlike me who sits around his house all day/night and does nothing.
Anyways, last night was a good/bad talk. I mean I was overly pissy at him, which wasn’t good and wasn’t deserved. Though the whole time I was hoping that he would ask why I didn’t call him Monday night to say goodnight. Since it’s something that I’ve done every weeknight that he’s been gone. But apparently he didn’t know notice. I guess in the back of my mind it was more a test to him to see if he noticed/cared that I called to say goodnight. In reality I didn’t think of it that way, I just wanted to see if he noticed or not.
Well long story short he didn’t notice and I guess I was a little hurt by that since I do take the time every weeknight to just give him a quick call to say goodnight and tell him that I miss him. I’m also hurt by a few other things, though I know they are unjustified and stupid. Mostly I guess is the fact that I don’t feel like he tells me that he misses me as much as I tell him. (IE through these private entries mostly). I’ve just been feeling really stupid about it all lately and such.
I guess he just never knew what he was getting himself into, and wishes he had never been here now though, after seeing what I turn into when you take something that I care for away. I guess you could say that I’m being a little obsessive maybe. And I hate that. I’m trying to change it, but at the same time, I can’t.
Overall I guess what I’m trying to say is that I just need him to tell me that he misses me, not just through spoken words either.
We also talked about study abroad, and spring break and I again got these stupid feelings of jealousy. The fact that my whole college career has been crap. I’ve spent it doing nothing. I haven’t once been on the ‘typical’ spring break trip. I haven’t been over seas, or even to Mexico. I haven’t been on a cruise, and I haven’t made any new friends in the now almost 4 years I’ve been in college. I guess what I’m saying is that I’m a very competitive person when it comes to life-experiences. And I’m losing the battle not only to Andrew, but to everyone else in the world, or at least that’s the way that I feel about it.
We were talking about it the other day in my international business class and like everyone else in there had stories to tell aboutt he time they were in Spain, or Italy, or France, or some other crazy ass little country that no one has ever heard of. It was all very annoying for me, and I wanted to just get up and leave. I hated it.
I really wish that I could have traveled when I was in college. I wisht hat my PU’s hadn’t fucking cancelled our trip to Alaska so that they cuold build a fucking garage! How stupid. I hate them.
Anyways, back to our convo. It ended up with me crying, and I think he was crying as well. Though we both got off the phone in what I would consider a fairly huffy manner. Though I hope that it wasn’t meant.
Oh, one other thing that we talked about was that he felt that I was mad at him for not making enough time for me. In one respect, yes I do feel as though he’s not making enough time for me. Though I do know that he tries his best to get to talk to me at least once a day. In the other hand though, I feel as if he’s making too much time for me sometimes. Though that’s not at all a bad thing. But the thing that annoys me about the time thing is that when he’s got a chance to call, it’s usually later in the night for him, which means it’s even LATER in the night for me. It’s that whole time change thing that really gets me. For instance, last night when he called it was only 7 for him, but it was alright 9 for me. And that kinda added to my annoyance for the night that he didn’t call tell so late. But I know that he was probably fairly busy with friends and such up tell that point (Which he did say he had just got back from someone’s room). So what I’m saying is that I’m happy for the time that he makes for me. I just wish that we were in the same times zone, so that I didn’t spend my whole night sitting in my apartment wondering when he was going to call me.
Anyways, I should be going. I think I’ve probably pissed him off enough with this entry. Though it’s not meant at all to piss you off. I am just writing my feelings though. And I want you to know that I’m not mad AT YOU! I do however miss you TONS.
::hugs::
EDIT://
Ok, I just found this on Andrew’s Journal (10/8/02) I think it sums things up:
As if I couldn’t just call him myself. Definitely I feel like I’m weak and giving in if I call him. So I wait for him to call me. I don’t think of him as weak though, when he calls. Because I know he is calling because he misses me. If he thinks about me as much as he claims to, then he must still care about me. You don’t just cut someone you love out of your life. *sigh* I don’t know.
Missing Enfuego
Ok, so private updates.
Well I guess we should start with the most pressing of things. I guess you could say that suicidle thoughts have returned once again. Though it’s not that big of a deal. I mean it’s not near as bad as it has been in the past… Just usally when I’m driving and have nothing else to occupy my mind. It always seems easier to just die then to put up with all the problems and stresses that are happening in my life right now.
So I went downtown, blah blah blah.
After that I was horny and I was like, “If Andrew’s going to jack it so much, I should have some fun too.” So I went to the porn store and bought a dildo. I’ve always wanted one, and it wasn’t at all meant to replace Enfuego… Nothing will ever be able to replace him. But I got one and went home and had a good time with it. It was nice, but also sad at the same time, because I wanted Enfuego.
Talked to Andrew the next day and told him about that. He seemed upset. But again, I want to stress that it’s not at all meant to replace him. I’ve just always wanted one, and now have one. And honestly I did look for one that was close to Enfuego’s size, shape, and uniquness. But I couldn’t find one. But we all know that Mr. Ass does miss Enfuego Greatly.
We talked a lot that night about our future and the uncertenties that lie ahead. It’s all very sad, because I really want to be closer to him. We decided that we aren’t going to talk about it again tell we know more… IE, after Christmas or Spring Break. It depends when things happen.
We also talked a lot about things perhaps happening again. Like there were a lot of signals that he wants to do stuff when he comes back. And I want to do stuff as well. Make love, kiss, cuddle at night again. I want to do that all so badly. But if we’re going to continue on with just being friends, I don’t really think that we can do that type of stuff. Or that we really shouldn’t do it.
Though I’m torn because I really want to have him make love to me again, and I want to lay there in bed holding his body and kiss him at night, and hold his hand. I dream of the day that he walks down those stairs at the Airport and I hug him and then lean back and give him a big kiss on the lips. But I don’t think that we should. But I really want to.
Anyways, we talked about a TON of stuff that night, and also talked about spring break. For some reason I could have SWORN I had looked it up once and found out that his spring break was the SAME week as mine. But he brought it up, so I went and looked it up, and well… Mines March 15th and his is April 5th. Which sucks total ass. Though I think we can work it out so that I can still come out there for spring break. So hopefully that’ll all work out.
This morning he called me and we talked forever again. It was really nice to talk to him for so long, and we talked about the most random things. We talked about how things might work out, and what I would feel if he randomly made out with someone. I forgot to ask him what he would feel like if I randomly made out with someone.
Anyways, I think that I would be upset about it, mostly because I haven’t moved on yet, and he keeps talking about coming back and pretty much picking things back up where they left off. I would be hurt if he randomly made out with someone. But I know that we both have to move on at some point, so I’m trying to get going on that. But I will be sad and hurt when that time comes.
Speaking of moving on though. I hope that when he comes back, things are just as good as they were when he left, and I hope that maybe come revelation will come along, or something. But on the other hand I also hope that things don’t work out, and we both realize that we’ve moved on and won’t work out.
I really hope that things do work out. I hope that he comes back and we can just pick it right bac up where it all left off. But that day is still a long ways away and we won’t know what will happen tell that day happens. And that’s what makes it the worst.
Well there was something else that I wanted to talk about here… But I can’t remember. Perhaps if he ever gets a good update, aI’ll remember what it’s was! 😛
Laters